23:01 - Socksy 진짜: Steel was a technology brought into this nation by the foreigners like 800-some years ago.
23:02 - Socksy 진짜: When the foreign king came. Similar to Aegon I realize.
23:02 - Socksy 진짜: Except where Aegon brought dragons, etc.
23:02 - Socksy 진짜: This dude showed up by accident.
23:03 - Socksy 진짜: And brought like a warship's worth of troops. Which is like 100-ish troops I should think.
23:04 - bk2MARU1: bumb that number up a bit unless you plan for majority of wars being fought by heavy troops in a ritualistic manner
23:04 - bk2MARU1: like knights w/o men-at-arms
23:04 - Socksy 진짜: He was an anomaly so the local family (Wallace)
23:04 - Socksy 진짜: Wanted to see him and he had a mini-coup type thing in which he ended up marrying the daughter of Wallace.
23:05 - bk2MARU1: oh hah
23:05 - Socksy 진짜: And then he started gathering followers. He faught in a few battles for his father-in-law against some rivals for extra land, etc.
23:06 - bk2MARU1: slow takeover? I like it
23:06 - Socksy 진짜: Eventually led to him conquering and subjugating the entire continent.
23:06 - Socksy 진짜: Well it was exponential. It was slow at first but once the ball was rolling it just sped up.
23:06 - Socksy 진짜: Like a snowball from the cartoons.
23:07 - Socksy 진짜: And he pulled those Song of Ice and Fire games.
23:07 - Socksy 진짜: Like how Frey turned on Tully in order to become the new warden of the Trident.
23:07 - Socksy 진짜: Ohwait. That wasn't a spoiler was it...?
23:08 - bk2MARU1: 'salright i dun really care everyone's gonna die anyways
23:08 - Socksy 진짜: Everyone dies.
23:08 - Socksy 진짜: Obviously.
23:09 - Socksy 진짜: All the time.
23:09 - bk2MARU1: watch at the last book a dragon half the size of westeros just comes and incinerates everyone
23:09 - Socksy 진짜: lol
23:09 - bk2MARU1: lol fuk u politics
23:09 - Socksy 진짜: Daenerys whatever it is was/is my favorite character.
23:10 - bk2MARU1: same
23:11 - bk2MARU1: what's the style of combat in your world?
23:11 - Socksy 진짜: Typically medieval-ish.
23:11 - Socksy 진짜: European.
23:11 - Socksy 진짜: I don't know if this is just Englsih.
23:12 - Socksy 진짜: But like heavy armour. And then you just sorta run armour into armour.
23:12 - Socksy 진짜: And a lot of the combat ends up being the people trying to dagger the joints of armour/ eye holes, whatever.
23:13 - bk2MARU1: so just like real medieval combat
23:13 - Socksy 진짜: And of course this is just the knights, or other people with training.
23:13 - bk2MARU1: what about pleb armies?
23:13 - Socksy 진짜: The peasants sorta just beat at eachother because they don't know what the hell they're doing.
23:13 - bk2MARU1: ah
23:13 - Socksy 진짜: Usually they get like you know a helmet.
23:14 - bk2MARU1: um...how do arrows play into this?
23:13 - Socksy 진짜: The lucky ones get an old beat up shield.
23:14 - Socksy 진짜: Archery is a thing. It's just you know viewed as womanish by certain areas more than others.
23:14 - Socksy 진짜: But it's necessity.
23:15 - Socksy 진짜: I never really know how much of an army is ever really ranged.
23:15 - Socksy 진짜: Or like how many arrows or anything. I don't know how that stuff ever worked.
23:16 - bk2MARU1: honestly, if medieval armies were able to mass produce steel armor piercing arrows
23:16 - Socksy 진짜: For most Velhamirans it's like mortars maybe? You unload a few volleys and then you run your troops in.
23:16 - bk2MARU1: the most heavily armored knight force wouldn't stand much of a chance
23:16 - bk2MARU1: ah
23:16 - bk2MARU1: oh right your gunpowder barbars
23:16 - Socksy 진짜: So ancient warfare-like? a small skirmish before the battle.
23:17 - Socksy 진짜: Gunpowder barbarians are equally as likely to blow themselves up as they are to actually shoot their cannons.
23:17 - Socksy 진짜: Extremely crude.
23:17 - bk2MARU1: even medieval warfare they didn't have the infrastructure to make thousands of high quality arrows
23:17 - bk2MARU1: the art of the mortar
23:18 - bk2MARU1: mix of martial arts and russian roulette
23:17 - Socksy 진짜: They killed a few dragons.
23:18 - Socksy 진짜: Because they're funny like that.
23:19 - Socksy 진짜: They made make-shift ramp-type things to get an angle.
23:19 - bk2MARU1: do they have alcohol?
23:19 - bk2MARU1: be like the rossians and constantly drunk
23:19 - Socksy 진짜: That's a big part of their culture. They buy and make lots of it. They're also the only people who manage to find some way to create metal boats.
23:20 - Socksy 진짜: Buoyancy and whatnot. They're freaking geniuses for their time. Crafty and stuff. Just not sedentary so they're not quite as dangerous as they would be otherwise.
23:20 - Socksy 진짜: They settle down for a bit to do something and then they start roaming around again. Like Indians a little bit.
23:21 - bk2MARU1: or like the mongols
23:21 - Socksy 진짜: I meant American Indians though.
23:21 - bk2MARU1: who were able to conquer everything without planting a single grain of anything.....
23:22 - Socksy 진짜: They didn't get all the way through Europe bro.
23:22 - bk2MARU1: they stopped because their leader decided to die
23:22 - Socksy 진짜: They got about as far as Poland it looks like.
23:23 - bk2MARU1: yeah
23:23 - Socksy 진짜: They got to the border of poland and then wimped out.
23:23 - bk2MARU1: although the land forces of West Europe were annihilated
23:24 - Socksy 진짜: No one acts like the Mongols in my world. Because that's too OP.
23:24 - Socksy 진짜: Well some people do a lot of horse archery. But they don't have a large enough population to do much.
23:25 - bk2MARU1: have the major powers annihilate any upstart potential mongols then
23:25 - bk2MARU1: "preventative measures"
23:26 - Socksy 진짜: Didn't the "East" build a sort of Hadrian, Chinese wall?
23:26 - bk2MARU1: "great wall of China"
23:26 - bk2MARU1: problem was they tried to protect the entire border
23:26 - Socksy 진짜: Not that. I meant the Eastern people.
23:27 - bk2MARU1: east?
23:27 - bk2MARU1: in your world?
23:27 - bk2MARU1: or in ours
23:27 - Socksy 진짜:
awbmn.proboards.com/thread/60/eastern-domains?page=1&scrollTo=8223:27 - Socksy 진짜:
oi39.tinypic.com/10wuxhw.jpg23:28 - bk2MARU1: oh I thought that was jsut a border or a road
23:28 - Socksy 진짜: idk.
23:29 - bk2MARU1: I could make it a fortification-based culture
23:29 - bk2MARU1: military culture
23:29 - Socksy 진짜: The dashed line was a border.
23:29 - Socksy 진짜: But I remember they do something a lot regarding fighting the barbarians back.
23:29 - Socksy 진짜: Because the barbarians gather up and decide to start firing cannons at the border occasionally.
23:29 - Socksy 진짜: And sometimes Zerg rush it/
23:30 - Socksy 진짜: But the East can actually hold back the horde.
23:31 - bk2MARU1: maybe I'll have a large semi-standing army of riders of rohan or something that match swarm with swarm
23:31 - Socksy 진짜: The barbarians are sort of trolls.
23:31 - bk2MARU1: have you heard about the movie red cliff
23:31 - bk2MARU1: ?>
23:31 - Socksy 진짜: No.
23:31 - bk2MARU1: chinese movie
23:31 - Socksy 진짜: I don't like Asians.
23:32 - bk2MARU1: lotsa battels
23:32 - Socksy 진짜: Unless Korean master race.
23:32 - Socksy 진짜: The website should be available again around 11:45 PM Pacific time.
23:32 - Socksy 진짜: Yay no netflix.
23:33 - bk2MARU1: it's only for 13 mins
23:33 - Socksy 진짜: You know the duels of gods and stuff?
23:33 - Socksy 진짜: Where like you have a champion and someone else chooses a champion?
23:33 - Socksy 진짜: And whoever's side is right wins
23:34 - bk2MARU1: is this part of your world? or a different concept
23:34 - Socksy 진짜: Well that sort of exists..
23:34 - Socksy 진짜: But the winner is never honored and usually war is the result regardless.
23:34 - Socksy 진짜: It's just sort of an old tradition that people maintain and uphold but don't honor.
23:35 - Socksy 진짜: "This one river that lies within your borders actually belong to me because my great uncle held them as part of his territory 57 years ago. So they're mine."
23:36 - Socksy 진짜: "Oh yeah? Well we'll see who they belong to. Let's have our champions battle." *Battle happens* "It seems the land is mine."
23:36 - Socksy 진짜: "Your champion won? Fuck this. TO BATTLE!"
23:36 - Socksy 진짜: A, B, A convo.
23:37 - bk2MARU1: "it seems the land is mi--"
at that very moment his head is taken off
23:37 - Socksy 진짜: No. Killing other lords during talks is dishonorable.
23:37 - Socksy 진짜: Only on the battlefield. If the other person dies you're convicted of treachery and punished.
23:38 - bk2MARU1: "it seems the land is mine"
"look behind you"
B's forces just about to crash into enemy line
23:38 - Socksy 진짜: Yeah.
23:38 - Socksy 진짜: Lots of trickery.
23:39 - Socksy 진짜: There aren't many ceremonies as far as the declaration of war goes.
23:39 - Socksy 진짜: You just sorta have to tell them.
23:39 - Socksy 진짜: And sometimes messengers will incite wars even though their lord never declared war. But the lord has to stand behind his "word" and remain honorable so they still go to battle.
23:39 - Socksy 진짜: Lots of trollery and douchebaggery occurs.
23:40 - bk2MARU1: "my lord announces that our two nations are now at war. Our forces will move out 2 days ago."
23:41 - Socksy 진짜: Yes.
23:41 - Socksy 진짜: Exactly.
23:42 - bk2MARU1: the best messengers are those who are able to get in and out without dying
23:42 - bk2MARU1: tend to end up like that cain guy
23:42 - Socksy 진짜: The royal family has a habit of killing the messenger.
23:42 - bk2MARU1: ?
23:42 - bk2MARU1: ah
23:42 - Socksy 진짜: Even if the messenger has good news.
23:42 - Socksy 진짜: "Excellent news, my lord! Our army has conquered the western hills!"
23:42 - Socksy 진짜: "Great! Now then, guards?"
23:43 - bk2MARU1: y'know after a while the messengers will get wise and send in their message with a paper airplane through the royal window
23:44 - Socksy 진짜: That doesn't work.
23:44 - Socksy 진짜: You have to go in. It's just how things are done.
23:44 - Socksy 진짜: Like the honorable seppuku
